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I agree, thank you. As a high school teacher I couldn't imagine that a parent would publicly announce the gender of their child, since there are several transgender students and teachers in our school and it's not rare. Still, I'm sure they have to put up all kinds of comments. It might be more usual in Finland to belong openly to minority but other students cän make it really hard even today.

I remember reading somewhere that B told he didn't face any discrimination being a child of Serbian parents and there were many similar children in the school, but they were kind of poor. What did he mean by that? I mean, his parents are doctors, so I would imagine, they didn't have any financial problems so maybe he meant his friends in the school. Are children of Serbian heritage usually from poorer families? Are there schools for the rich and for the poor in Slovenia and B's school was for the poor?

I hope, you can interpret what I mean, since my english skills are very limited (not that kind of teacher).
Yeah I remember that interview. :)
He mentioned that for the first few years they lived in Fužine. It's a neighbourhood in Ljubljana with a lot of tall apartment buildings built in the 80s. This neighbourhood sometimes gets a bad reputation but it's just dumb talking really, it's actually a nice place to live, lots of green. It is not by any means any kind of ghetto or anything like that, though some people like to say that, these are people who have never travelled the world and actually seen what a real ghetto is. There was even a documentary about it (as a bunch of entertainers/artists come from there) and they all spoke fondly of it, back then being a tight knit community etc. The buildings do have that socialist appearance but the actual quality of how apartments were built back then was actually better than today a lot of times. At the time of when those apartments were built a lot of economic immigrants from other YU republics moved to Slovenia. As you can imagine, these are often people who do low wages jobs. Back then companies owned apartments that they would rent cheaply to their employees, so a lot of immigrants ended up living there, and still do. Similarly where I lived as child, the coal mine owned a lot of apartments, so it was common for co-workers to be also neighbours. (can't imagine that nowadays...)
It's possible that the hospital also owned some apartments there and that's how B and his family lived there, until they bought a house and moved to another part of town where B met neighbour Martin. :)
So as a result of that, it makes sense that a lot of non-Slovenian kids were at his school as well.

I wouldn't say there are schools for rich and poor in Slovenia, there's only a few private schools (Montessori, Waldorf, etc) but if we are real, gentrification is also a thing here nowadays, just like in many places around the world and it is starting to feel that some neighbourhoods are richer than others which is unfortunately, reflected in the neighbourhood school kids as well.
 
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Yeah I remember that interview.
He mentioned that for the first few years they lived in Fužine. It's a neighbourhood in Ljubljana with a lot of tall apartment buildings built in the 80s. This neighbourhood sometimes gets a bad reputation but it's just dumb talking really, it's actually a nice place to live, lots of green. It is not by any means any kind of ghetto or anything like that, though some people like to say that, these are people who have never travelled the world and actually seen what a real ghetto is. There was even a documentary about it (as a bunch of entertainers/artists come from there) and they all spoke fondly of it, back then being a tight knit community etc. The buildings do have that socialist appearance but the actual quality of how apartments were built back then was actually better than today a lot of times. At the time of when those apartments were built a lot of economic immigrants from other YU republics moved to Slovenia. As you can imagine, these are often people who do low wages jobs. Back then companies owned apartments that they would rent cheaply to their employees, so a lot of immigrants ended up living there, and still do. Similarly where I lived as child, the coal mine owned a lot of apartments, so it was common for co-workers to be also neighbours. (can't imagine that nowadays...)
It's possible that the hospital also owned some apartments there and that's how B and his family lived there, until they bought a house and moved to another part of town where B met neighbour Martin.
So as a result of that, it makes sense that a lot of non-Slovenian kids were at his school as well.

I wouldn't say there are schools for rich and poor in Slovenia, there's only a few private schools (Montessori, Waldorf, etc) but if we are real, gentrification is also a thing here nowadays, just like in many places around the world and it is starting to feel that some neighbourhoods are richer than others which is unfortunately, reflected in the neighbourhood school kids as well.
Eikö lapsiperheköyhyys -asiat oleet parhaiten hoidettu Sloveniassa?👨‍👩‍👧‍👧https://www.unicef.org/globalinsight/reports/report-card-18-child-poverty-amidst-wealth
 
vierailija
I agree, thank you. As a high school teacher I couldn't imagine that a parent would publicly announce the gender of their child, since there are several transgender students and teachers in our school and it's not rare. Still, I'm sure they have to put up all kinds of comments. It might be more usual in Finland to belong openly to minority but other students cän make it really hard even today.

I remember reading somewhere that B told he didn't face any discrimination being a child of Serbian parents and there were many similar children in the school, but they were kind of poor. What did he mean by that? I mean, his parents are doctors, so I would imagine, they didn't have any financial problems so maybe he meant his friends in the school. Are children of Serbian heritage usually from poorer families? Are there schools for the rich and for the poor in Slovenia and B's school was for the poor?

I hope, you can interpret what I mean, since my english skills are very limited (not that kind of teacher).
Haastattelija mainitsi että B:n vanhemmat tulivat Sloveniaan pakolaisina Bosniasta ja ymmärsin että B:n vastaus syrjinnän kokemisesta liittyi pakolaisuuteen, samoin kuin luokkatovereiden perheiden köyhyys ainakin osittain.
 
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Tässä tämä kohta kun B saa fanilta Käärijä julisteen. Eipä viekään sitä taakse rumpujen luokse, niinkuin yleensä vaan jättää sen eteen. Kivempi siitä toki katsella keikan aikana.

Voi hyvänen aika taas universe 💙💚 Jos olen oikeassa, B laulaa Golaa alla mainitussa kohdassa, kun saa Kn kuvan. Säkeistön selitys: The mention of the stars dancing for them implies that the universe is aligned in their favor. The line "Če dih nama vzame še zvezde bi plesale za naju" (If breath is taken from us, the stars would dance for us) emphasizes the magnitude and uniqueness of their love.
Laulun koko selitys:
 
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Joo, nyt jotenkin tuntuu ärsyttävän tuo trollaus enemmän kuin normaalisti, kun joulunaika oli niin hirmuisen mukavaa menoa. En kertakaikkiaan älyä tuommoista toimintaa. Minusta tuntuu että olisin tarvittaessa valmis vaikka omalla naamalla ja nimellä viestittelemään tämän porukan kanssa, esimerkiksi WhatsApissa, koska se olisi varmasti idioottivarmin keino pitää trollit loitolla. Feikkisähköposti, jossa kerättäisiin halukkaiden puhelinnumerot, sitten ryhmä pystyyn ja korkeintaan muutama ylläpitäjä. En ole täältä taikka vauvalta kyllä hevillä lähdössä, mutta jos kenelläkään olisi kiinnostusta johonkin tuon kaltaiseen ryhmään, niin minun ei ainakaan tarvitsisi kauaa asiaa pohtia.
 
vierailija
Joo, nyt jotenkin tuntuu ärsyttävän tuo trollaus enemmän kuin normaalisti, kun joulunaika oli niin hirmuisen mukavaa menoa. En kertakaikkiaan älyä tuommoista toimintaa. Minusta tuntuu että olisin tarvittaessa valmis vaikka omalla naamalla ja nimellä viestittelemään tämän porukan kanssa, esimerkiksi WhatsApissa, koska se olisi varmasti idioottivarmin keino pitää trollit loitolla. Feikkisähköposti, jossa kerättäisiin halukkaiden puhelinnumerot, sitten ryhmä pystyyn ja korkeintaan muutama ylläpitäjä. En ole täältä taikka vauvalta kyllä hevillä lähdössä, mutta jos kenelläkään olisi kiinnostusta johonkin tuon kaltaiseen ryhmään, niin minun ei ainakaan tarvitsisi kauaa asiaa pohtia.
Mulla taas on silleen etten nyt ärsyynny niin helposti ku yleensä, ku on tullu niin paljon kaikkee kivaa tässä lähiaikoina K&B-suunnalta. Mut perseestähän toi trollaus on enkä tuu ikinä ymmärtämään kyseisiä tyyppejä.
 
vierailija
Minua ärsyttää enemmän se yksi nimimerkki, joka saa niitä omia kohtauksia tasaisin väliajoin jostain ja jankkaa omia juttujaan ainoina oikeina, että on älykkäämpi kuin muut, nää muut niin selkeästi pelleily mielessä trollaa niin ei sillain ärsytä
 
Eikö lapsiperheköyhyys -asiat oleet parhaiten hoidettu Sloveniassa?👨‍👩‍👧‍👧https://www.unicef.org/globalinsight/reports/report-card-18-child-poverty-amidst-wealth
I don't know about "the best" but I would say things are good in terms of healthcare, education, daycare, etc for children. For example, daycare is free in some cases, heavily discounted for low-income families.... This is not the case in some much richer countries around the world.
 

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